Delete Page?[]
All of the grinding missions have their own Strategy pages with solution decks and all; do we really need this talk page? Anakin2177 19:21, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
Rep Grinding Decks[]
We need an update. I would like to link average cost deck (no promo or reward spamming) and then post Any and every deck people want to here on the talk page.
House Cleaning[]
I moved these decks over to the talk page, Pummeller is a Reputation reward, and Azure Reaper is a Raid and Trident is a Faction reward. I'd like to include decks that more people would have access to. Shadowmaru 01:19, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Minimum time and energy required for Honored faction[]
Can someone tell me how the formula is calculated? I calculated based on the "Victory Required" multiply "Energy per mission" and the figures are all lower. My logic is that, players won't think about straightly obtaining honored when going through a new Locality faction, but the current shown form assumed otherwise. http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/rewlf2/rewlf2/sigrune-1.png 05:44, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
I am the one who proposed those numbers. The idea behind making those numbers is to give people an idea on time consumption of rep grinding for a particular Local Faction whenever they decide to do so.
- RepCplt is simple, just ∑(length in victories*rep per victory).
- For example, RepCplt for Tartarus Pact is calced as follows:
- M67 is 5*4=20
- M68 is 6*5=30
- M69 is 6*5=30
- M70 is 7*6=42
- M71 is 7*7=49
- M72 is 8*8=64
- M73 is 6*9=54
- M74 is 7*10=70
- M75 is 7*11=77
- M76 is 8*12=96
- M77 is 8*13=104
- M78 is 9*14=126
- M79 is 9*15=135
- For example, RepCplt for Tartarus Pact is calced as follows:
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- Total is 897.
- VicReq is calced by the following formula, rounded up to nearest integer:
( 2000(that's rep for honored) -RepCplt)/(rep payout for winning the most efficient related mission)- For TP, you do (2000-RepCplt(TP))/(Most rep-efficient mission from TP, that's M77) = (2000-897)/13 = 84.846... = 85(rounded up)
- MinEnHon is calced in a little tricky manner:
- First you need minimum energy needed to get through all missions normally. This half of the math is ∑(length in victories*energy per attempt).
- Next you need to know VicReq and the corresponding mission. With that mission's energy cost and VicReq in mind, the other half you need is VicReq*(energy per attempt on said mission)
- Add both halves.
- Again, I'll use TP as example.
- The first half is energy needed to trawl through M67 to M79 normally, without repeating an already-100%ed mission.
- M67 is 5*12=60
- M68 is 6*12=72
- M69 is 6*14=84
- M70 is 7*15=105
- M71 is 7*16=112
- M72 is 8*17=136
- M73 is 6*13=78
- M74 is 7*14=98
- M75 is 7*15=105
- M76 is 8*15=120
- M77 is 8*16=128
- M78 is 9*18=162
- M79 is 9*19=171
- The first half is energy needed to trawl through M67 to M79 normally, without repeating an already-100%ed mission.
- Again, I'll use TP as example.
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- Sub-total is 1431.
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- Next, multiply VicReq with energy cost for M77. That is, 85*16=1360.
- Then, you get MinEnHon as 1431+1360=2791
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- With MinEnHon, MinTiHon is obtained by converting 1 energy into 1 minute (regen rate) and 60 minutes into 1 hour.
- MinEnHon for TP is hence 46hr31min.
There, I hope the numbers are demystified enough. Speaking of which, I can use some typo check with the main page.
Hakdo 08:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
Number Crunching and Spam Decks[]
Arctis Vanguard Mission 10 is trivially easy; it can be won on auto with perfect win rate using a single 3-attack, 1 cooldown card (2 if a Rally commander is used):
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 100% | Evil4Zerggin |
The win rate is provably perfect--3 attack will kill any Assault unit in front of it instantly.
If you lack such a card, two assault cards with 2 attack and 1 cooldown will also achieve a perfect win rate, as this will guarantee two hits on every enemy card.
Tyrol's Champions Spamming Vampire will net you a perfect win rate:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 100.0% | Evil4Zerggin |
Blood Shield If you have Dracorex, a Pummpool works well for Mission 28:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.9% | Evil4Zerggin |
If you have Xaedan, you can use Azure Reapers, Daemons, or Dominated Hatchlings:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | Evil4Zerggin | 1 million battles | 99.9% | As shown |
| 99.6% | Daemon instead of Azure Reaper | ||||
| 99.3% | Dominated Hatchlings instead of Azure Reaper |
Using Atlas with Tridents and/or Sharpshooters are also options that achieve win rates above 99%.
The Protectorate If you have lots of Valkyrie, Mission 38 works well:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.7% | Evil4Zerggin |
If you do not have many Valkyrie, try Mission 29 instead. An excellent win rate can be achieved with Irradiated Infantry:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.9% | Evil4Zerggin |
The Outriders
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Sawblades and fast Strike make for a reasonably priced deck with high win rate. If you have Sharpshooter, you can replace the Devastators and Sawblades for a higher win rate. In the other direction, pure Sawblades are easier to get, but at the cost of a little win rate.
| Simulator | Version | Tester | Parameters | Win Rate | Variation |
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | Evil4Zerggin | 1 million battles | > 99.9% | As shown |
| > 99.99% | Sharpshooter instead of Devastator, Sawblade | ||||
| 99.5% | Only Sawblades |
Forsaken Ones
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Spamming Sharpshooter and fast Strike cards will give a nearly perfect win rate. If you don't have Sharpshooter, Irradiated Infantry will do very well also. If you have neither, use Blood Grunts.
| Simulator | Version | Tester | Parameters | Win Rate | Variation |
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | Evil4Zerggin | 1 million battles | > 99.99% | As shown |
| > 99.9% | Irradiated Infantry instead of Sharpshooter | ||||
| 99.5% | Blood Grunt instead of Sharpshooter |
The Purge If you want to play on Auto and have access to Tridents, you can try Mission 64:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.8% | Evil4Zerggin |
If not, you can pack all the Valkyries you can and do Mission 60:
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If you do not have so many Valkyrie, fill the rest of the spots with the best anti-air and anti-Xeno units you have.
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.8% | Evil4Zerggin |
Tartarus Pact If you have Dracorex and lots of decent cards with at least Armor 2, Mission 77 is a good choice:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | > 99.9% | Evil4Zerggin |
Obsidian, Pyro Rig, Toxic Cannon, Bolster Xeno, etc. will produce similar results.
If you lack Dracorex, Mission 76 can be approached with the traditional Irradiated Infantry rush:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 100.0% | Evil4Zerggin |
New Order Mission 89 is the target of choice here. Irradiated Infantry with Eva will do well:
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| Evaluate Decks | 6r12 | 1 million battles | 99.3% | Evil4Zerggin |
Retribution TyrantMissionGrinding/Mission 99 is the best mission.
I don't know how you can create this pics with the decks on this wiki.
For mission 28 you can get 99.98% win with:
Lucina the Wicked, Predator, Fighter Jet, Tiamat, Omega, Contaminant Scour(3), Rifter, Shapeshifter, Bolster Xeno
All cards are reward cards from missions or from standard set.
If you don´t have this many Contaminant Scour you can put in Psycho without changing the win% or you can put in cards like hunter, havoc, hydra and you´ll just get a slightly decreased %. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.67.201.73 (talk • contribs)
- This setup is unnecessary because II spam can be obtained with merely 2500 gold, has 92% success rate, while the latter setup needs a lot more work and gold. http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/rewlf2/rewlf2/sigrune-1.png 05:44, November 29, 2011 (UTC)